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		<title>Comment on Tales from the Crypt and the Kish by Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I was squeeling too when I watched this yesterday. The scenes between Fish and Kyle were marvelous. I love that the writers and Scott Evans have retained Fish&#039;s awkward, dorky quality, even when he&#039;s with Kyle, which makes all that much more endearing. And Kyle&#039;s reactions to Fish--Brett plays them so well--not just that proud look when Fish talks about him being his boyfriend, but his eyes going down Fish&#039;s body when he comes out in the towel. Great stuff.

And I SO love that Cris and Layla are not only together but establishing a great friendship with Fish and Kyle. Like you say, their performances are so organic, it does seem like 4 very close friends. And seeing Cris, the straight guy, be such a supportive and caring friend is a major plus, something that is rarely seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I was squeeling too when I watched this yesterday. The scenes between Fish and Kyle were marvelous. I love that the writers and Scott Evans have retained Fish&#8217;s awkward, dorky quality, even when he&#8217;s with Kyle, which makes all that much more endearing. And Kyle&#8217;s reactions to Fish&#8211;Brett plays them so well&#8211;not just that proud look when Fish talks about him being his boyfriend, but his eyes going down Fish&#8217;s body when he comes out in the towel. Great stuff.</p>
<p>And I SO love that Cris and Layla are not only together but establishing a great friendship with Fish and Kyle. Like you say, their performances are so organic, it does seem like 4 very close friends. And seeing Cris, the straight guy, be such a supportive and caring friend is a major plus, something that is rarely seen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tales from the Crypt and the Kish by Mala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Mitch stuff is also great because OLTL is a show that doesn&#039;t do this kind of stuff too often (hi, GH, looking at you!). 

I don&#039;t know how much farther we&#039;ll see Kyle and Fish go onscreen, but they&#039;re just so beautifully crafted, between the writing, the acting and the direction. I really hope the viewers continue to be supportive of the pacing. And combined with Cris and Layla they really are a great foursome. Each actor brings something singular to their role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Mitch stuff is also great because OLTL is a show that doesn&#8217;t do this kind of stuff too often (hi, GH, looking at you!). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much farther we&#8217;ll see Kyle and Fish go onscreen, but they&#8217;re just so beautifully crafted, between the writing, the acting and the direction. I really hope the viewers continue to be supportive of the pacing. And combined with Cris and Layla they really are a great foursome. Each actor brings something singular to their role.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tales from the Crypt and the Kish by Anthony D. Langford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony D. Langford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mala:

I&#039;m a new viewer to the show, so I didn&#039;t know Mitch from before.  But I&#039;m LOVING the Mitch stuff.  It&#039;s soooooo creepy and over the top and outlandish and fun.  The whole digging up Nash&#039;s grave and Jessica finding the corpse was HOT.  I can&#039;t wait to see how it&#039;s all going to play out.  EXCEPT for Rex.  JPL&#039;s performance at finding out that Mitch was his father is as bad as Drunk Gigi yesterday.  I dread watching months of this.  And scenes between Mitch and Rex are going to be like watching a fifteen car pileup in it&#039;s awfulness.  But you can&#039;t turn away.  

I&#039;m loving Cris and Layla and I loved their scenes.  And the Kyle/Oliver stuff was much steamier and hotter than I could have imagined.  Gee, and to think they are just getting started!  And as you mentioned, so many great moments like the reaction on Kyle&#039;s face when Oliver called him is boyfriend.  And the awkwardness and hesitance is no natural and real, even though they&#039;ve been lovers before.  Plus, Kyle&#039;s comment that Oliver wasn&#039;t a prude.  The mind whirls!  I&#039;m so glad this foursome are becoming a nice little &#039;family&#039;.  Such fun and they all compliment each other.

But I miss Jared already.  Sniff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mala:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a new viewer to the show, so I didn&#8217;t know Mitch from before.  But I&#8217;m LOVING the Mitch stuff.  It&#8217;s soooooo creepy and over the top and outlandish and fun.  The whole digging up Nash&#8217;s grave and Jessica finding the corpse was HOT.  I can&#8217;t wait to see how it&#8217;s all going to play out.  EXCEPT for Rex.  JPL&#8217;s performance at finding out that Mitch was his father is as bad as Drunk Gigi yesterday.  I dread watching months of this.  And scenes between Mitch and Rex are going to be like watching a fifteen car pileup in it&#8217;s awfulness.  But you can&#8217;t turn away.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m loving Cris and Layla and I loved their scenes.  And the Kyle/Oliver stuff was much steamier and hotter than I could have imagined.  Gee, and to think they are just getting started!  And as you mentioned, so many great moments like the reaction on Kyle&#8217;s face when Oliver called him is boyfriend.  And the awkwardness and hesitance is no natural and real, even though they&#8217;ve been lovers before.  Plus, Kyle&#8217;s comment that Oliver wasn&#8217;t a prude.  The mind whirls!  I&#8217;m so glad this foursome are becoming a nice little &#8216;family&#8217;.  Such fun and they all compliment each other.</p>
<p>But I miss Jared already.  Sniff!</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Mala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to wonder if I have a cultural disconnect or something, because, to me, kissing and sex aren&#039;t necessarily the hallmarks of a solid relationship so I don&#039;t call for those things as loudly as a lot of other viewers do. I mean, I want my favorite couples to engage in those things, but it&#039;s never my focus. 

In our daily lives, Indians aren&#039;t always a demonstrative people, but that doesn&#039;t make the love and affection we feel any less valid or true. Bollywood movies, too, have only recently started to show kissing and love scenes, but they have some of the most romantic movies of all time going back in their catalog over the decades. Some of my absolute favorite movies involve the hero and heroine barely even holding hands! 

So, when I watch a soap, it&#039;s mainly for the emotional connectivity, not for the lovin&#039;. And that&#039;s why the roof scene resonated so much: the communication, the layers, it was so well handled. It really set the tone for where they hope to go next. (It probably would&#039;ve been a musical number in a Bollywood film. With them running through a field of mustard flowers together.)

And I suppose I&#039;ll have to read your column to see what Ron C says about Kyle&#039;s edge. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder if I have a cultural disconnect or something, because, to me, kissing and sex aren&#8217;t necessarily the hallmarks of a solid relationship so I don&#8217;t call for those things as loudly as a lot of other viewers do. I mean, I want my favorite couples to engage in those things, but it&#8217;s never my focus. </p>
<p>In our daily lives, Indians aren&#8217;t always a demonstrative people, but that doesn&#8217;t make the love and affection we feel any less valid or true. Bollywood movies, too, have only recently started to show kissing and love scenes, but they have some of the most romantic movies of all time going back in their catalog over the decades. Some of my absolute favorite movies involve the hero and heroine barely even holding hands! </p>
<p>So, when I watch a soap, it&#8217;s mainly for the emotional connectivity, not for the lovin&#8217;. And that&#8217;s why the roof scene resonated so much: the communication, the layers, it was so well handled. It really set the tone for where they hope to go next. (It probably would&#8217;ve been a musical number in a Bollywood film. With them running through a field of mustard flowers together.)</p>
<p>And I suppose I&#8217;ll have to read your column to see what Ron C says about Kyle&#8217;s edge. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Anthony D. Langford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony D. Langford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know Mala, I think some folks are just reactionary.  Some folks were upset that they weren&#039;t all over each other or that they hadn&#039;t had sex right away.  But it&#039;s obvious to me that they are still feeling their way through this relationship because it&#039;s new to them.  They&#039;re actually getting to know one another all over again, even though they&#039;re crazy in love.

But I was amazed by that scene on the rooftop.  Oliver said that &#039;things were different&#039; and they were.  Just the way they talked to each other and the level of communication.   We saw a whole new side of their relationship that we hadn&#039;t seen before because, but the chemistry was still there just as strong.

As for Kyle&#039;s dark side, it&#039;s funny you should mention that.  I just interviewed Ron C. for my column and asked him that very question because I don&#039;t want Kyle to lose that edge either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know Mala, I think some folks are just reactionary.  Some folks were upset that they weren&#8217;t all over each other or that they hadn&#8217;t had sex right away.  But it&#8217;s obvious to me that they are still feeling their way through this relationship because it&#8217;s new to them.  They&#8217;re actually getting to know one another all over again, even though they&#8217;re crazy in love.</p>
<p>But I was amazed by that scene on the rooftop.  Oliver said that &#8216;things were different&#8217; and they were.  Just the way they talked to each other and the level of communication.   We saw a whole new side of their relationship that we hadn&#8217;t seen before because, but the chemistry was still there just as strong.</p>
<p>As for Kyle&#8217;s dark side, it&#8217;s funny you should mention that.  I just interviewed Ron C. for my column and asked him that very question because I don&#8217;t want Kyle to lose that edge either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Mala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just odd to me that someone would compare Kish&#039;s aerial kiss to the Nuke cutaways and claim viewers were &quot;cheated.&quot; Especially when they kissed yesterday on the roof. The show, to me, seems invested in making story-driven, stylistic choices for these characters and including them in such a unifying group shot was beautifully symbolic.

It&#039;s not like this is &lt;em&gt;Dante&#039;s Cove&lt;/em&gt;, you know? Where the whole point is to watch hot people make out and the plot and characterization are secondary (possibly even tertiary, LOL).

I, too, loved the stuff on the roof and seeing how sweet and tentative they are with each other, and how Kyle was just...&lt;em&gt;lighter&lt;/em&gt;. As Oliver pointed out, he was actually smiling. Of course, I also hope he&#039;ll get his edge back soon. ;-).

I have no idea what happened between Gigi and Sky, because I was just as distracted by her hair as you were. I was like, &quot;Wait, is it still Halloween? Is she dressed up as a member of Flock of Seagulls?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just odd to me that someone would compare Kish&#8217;s aerial kiss to the Nuke cutaways and claim viewers were &#8220;cheated.&#8221; Especially when they kissed yesterday on the roof. The show, to me, seems invested in making story-driven, stylistic choices for these characters and including them in such a unifying group shot was beautifully symbolic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like this is <em>Dante&#8217;s Cove</em>, you know? Where the whole point is to watch hot people make out and the plot and characterization are secondary (possibly even tertiary, LOL).</p>
<p>I, too, loved the stuff on the roof and seeing how sweet and tentative they are with each other, and how Kyle was just&#8230;<em>lighter</em>. As Oliver pointed out, he was actually smiling. Of course, I also hope he&#8217;ll get his edge back soon. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I have no idea what happened between Gigi and Sky, because I was just as distracted by her hair as you were. I was like, &#8220;Wait, is it still Halloween? Is she dressed up as a member of Flock of Seagulls?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Anthony D. Langford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony D. Langford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was torn in that I really like Nick.  Yes, I know he was slightly manipulative and pushy in regards to Kyle, but Kyle is a grown man and he is just as responsible for what happened between he and Nick as Nick is.  Kyle should have been more honest with Nick and well, with himself.  So as much as I was glad to see Kyle and Oliver together and I just loved Kyle&#039;s weepy speech to his fella, I hated seeing Nick hurt.  

And the show is acknowledging his pain in yesterday&#039;s and today&#039;s show.  I think OLTL and we are supposed to see him as more than just a third wheel, but a human being with his own feelings and hurts as well.  I know Nick is going to be around for awhile so I look forward to see where they go with him.

I admit I am puzzled by the various complaints about the kiss in the accusations that ABC is &#039;cheating&#039; the viewer or &#039;avoiding&#039; showing affection between the two men.  Some folks are even comparing to the infamous mistletoe incident on ATWT.  To me it was the show and the people in Kyle and Oliver&#039;s lives celebrating and embracing their reunion and their relationship.  It was another beautiful moment in an episode full of them.

And well, while I groaned while Rex and John traveled across the country at the speed of light while the rest of Llanview stood still (even though I&#039;m loving the story and I can&#039;t wait for the return at weeks end), I enjoyed those sweet, funny and warm moments on the roof of Kyle&#039;s building where Kyle and Oliver talked about the future and their hopes and dreams and concerns.

Oliver said at one point that things were different and they are.  You can feel the difference and the shift in their dynamic and their interaction and relationship.  Can&#039;t wait for that first date.

The only other thing that really struck me about today&#039;s show is Gigi being torn between Sky and Rex and how I was distracted from the drama by that God awful hairstyle of Gigi&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was torn in that I really like Nick.  Yes, I know he was slightly manipulative and pushy in regards to Kyle, but Kyle is a grown man and he is just as responsible for what happened between he and Nick as Nick is.  Kyle should have been more honest with Nick and well, with himself.  So as much as I was glad to see Kyle and Oliver together and I just loved Kyle&#8217;s weepy speech to his fella, I hated seeing Nick hurt.  </p>
<p>And the show is acknowledging his pain in yesterday&#8217;s and today&#8217;s show.  I think OLTL and we are supposed to see him as more than just a third wheel, but a human being with his own feelings and hurts as well.  I know Nick is going to be around for awhile so I look forward to see where they go with him.</p>
<p>I admit I am puzzled by the various complaints about the kiss in the accusations that ABC is &#8216;cheating&#8217; the viewer or &#8216;avoiding&#8217; showing affection between the two men.  Some folks are even comparing to the infamous mistletoe incident on ATWT.  To me it was the show and the people in Kyle and Oliver&#8217;s lives celebrating and embracing their reunion and their relationship.  It was another beautiful moment in an episode full of them.</p>
<p>And well, while I groaned while Rex and John traveled across the country at the speed of light while the rest of Llanview stood still (even though I&#8217;m loving the story and I can&#8217;t wait for the return at weeks end), I enjoyed those sweet, funny and warm moments on the roof of Kyle&#8217;s building where Kyle and Oliver talked about the future and their hopes and dreams and concerns.</p>
<p>Oliver said at one point that things were different and they are.  You can feel the difference and the shift in their dynamic and their interaction and relationship.  Can&#8217;t wait for that first date.</p>
<p>The only other thing that really struck me about today&#8217;s show is Gigi being torn between Sky and Rex and how I was distracted from the drama by that God awful hairstyle of Gigi&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Mala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s totally a soap convention for one party to call it off and I was really happy that while Dorian was clearly waiting for David to interrupt her wedding, it was Kyle and Nick&#039;s that went south. It was a great choice on the writers&#039; part, to give them and Fish that oh-so-typical soap moment.

What Viki/Todd/Elijah/Téa scenes? There were no such scenes. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s totally a soap convention for one party to call it off and I was really happy that while Dorian was clearly waiting for David to interrupt her wedding, it was Kyle and Nick&#8217;s that went south. It was a great choice on the writers&#8217; part, to give them and Fish that oh-so-typical soap moment.</p>
<p>What Viki/Todd/Elijah/Téa scenes? There were no such scenes. LOL.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did wince for Nick when Kyle left Nick to go to Oliver,  but it is a soap convention for one party (usually the bride) to call off the wedding right before the &quot;I Do&quot; and this seemed to fall in line with it.  And I agree that showing Nick&#039;s pain as he left the wedding was an acknowledgment of his importance. 

I thought the overhead shot was beautiful. It showed how the community recognized and embraced Kyle and Oliver and the other couples which is a key part of what marriage signifies.  I thought it was a really smart and moving decision. And it&#039;s what made cry.

And I&#039;m just pretending the Viki/Todd Elijah/Tea scenes didn&#039;t happen in the same episode because they make me stabby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did wince for Nick when Kyle left Nick to go to Oliver,  but it is a soap convention for one party (usually the bride) to call off the wedding right before the &#8220;I Do&#8221; and this seemed to fall in line with it.  And I agree that showing Nick&#8217;s pain as he left the wedding was an acknowledgment of his importance. </p>
<p>I thought the overhead shot was beautiful. It showed how the community recognized and embraced Kyle and Oliver and the other couples which is a key part of what marriage signifies.  I thought it was a really smart and moving decision. And it&#8217;s what made cry.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m just pretending the Viki/Todd Elijah/Tea scenes didn&#8217;t happen in the same episode because they make me stabby.</p>
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		<title>Comment on OLTL shows some tender reverence. by Mala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, and I didn&#039;t see Kyle as callously dismissing Nick so much as he was wholly embracing Oliver. It was a make-or-break moment. If he had hesitated and not gone with his gut just like Fish had when he yelled at the protesters, then it wouldn&#039;t have worked. That moment was not about Nick and stopping to have Kyle say, &quot;I&#039;m sorry it didn&#039;t work out,&quot; but rather about Kyle going, &quot;This is my last chance to see if Oliver and I can make a go of it.&quot; And they wouldn&#039;t have shown us Nick bolting out of the wedding heartbroken if they weren&#039;t acknowledging that his reaction was important.

Not to mention that Nick is hardly &quot;poor Nick&quot; in this equation. I firmly believe he cares about Kyle, but he also roped Kyle into his and Amelia&#039;s political maneuvering with no real thought as to how Kyle ready was for it. Every &quot;out&quot; he gave Kyle to back out of the process was, much like Amelia&#039;s with Dorian, just another passive-aggressive push to actually go forward with it.

And in another difference of opinion, I loved the camera angle for the kiss. The aerial shot, overlooking all these happy people and unifying them in the moment, spoke volumes to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, and I didn&#8217;t see Kyle as callously dismissing Nick so much as he was wholly embracing Oliver. It was a make-or-break moment. If he had hesitated and not gone with his gut just like Fish had when he yelled at the protesters, then it wouldn&#8217;t have worked. That moment was not about Nick and stopping to have Kyle say, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry it didn&#8217;t work out,&#8221; but rather about Kyle going, &#8220;This is my last chance to see if Oliver and I can make a go of it.&#8221; And they wouldn&#8217;t have shown us Nick bolting out of the wedding heartbroken if they weren&#8217;t acknowledging that his reaction was important.</p>
<p>Not to mention that Nick is hardly &#8220;poor Nick&#8221; in this equation. I firmly believe he cares about Kyle, but he also roped Kyle into his and Amelia&#8217;s political maneuvering with no real thought as to how Kyle ready was for it. Every &#8220;out&#8221; he gave Kyle to back out of the process was, much like Amelia&#8217;s with Dorian, just another passive-aggressive push to actually go forward with it.</p>
<p>And in another difference of opinion, I loved the camera angle for the kiss. The aerial shot, overlooking all these happy people and unifying them in the moment, spoke volumes to me.</p>
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